Blackthorn Veigar with Rammus
Also called Malphite Veigar Fast 8 · Blackthorn Fast 8
Fast 8ConsistentCarried by Malphite & VeigarA Teamfight Tactics Set 18 comp, measured on patch 18.5 ranked games.
Difficulty Easy None of the difficulty signals we could measure apply (2 of 4 measured)
Updated 21 Oct 2026, 08:18 UTC · ranked games, last 7 days, Diamond+ · Patch 18.5
Too few games to grade in Diamond+: 7 in the last 7 days, and its numbers start at 400. All ranks shows what we measured.
Too few games to grade: 78 at all ranks in the last 7 days, and a grade needs 400.
Which version?
Two comps play Blackthorn around Veigar. They share the three below; the units only one of them plays tell you which one you are on.
Two comps play Blackthorn around Veigar. They share the three below; the units only one of them plays tell you which one you are on.
Ranked games, last 7 days, Diamond+. A dashed portrait is a flex slot: many of its games play another unit there.
No tier yet fewer than 400 games this week Not graded played too rarely to grade
When
Others on Malphite or Veigar in the lobby, over 182 games of this patch at all ranks.
Level plan
- Stage 5 Lv 8.1 measured
- Stage 6 Lv 8.6 measured
Carries
Malphite 3★ on 0% of boards
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Gargoyle Stoneplate, Warmog's Armor, Spirit Visage
Veigar 3★ on 38% of boards
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Jeweled Gauntlet, Blue Buff, Rabadon's Deathcap

Game plan
- How it’s played
- Fast 8 Players of this comp who go out in stage 6 are level 8.6 on average.
- Roll
- Level 8 around 4-2: about 22 rolls (44 gold) to 2-star Malphite; about 33 if three copies of each are on other boards. model
- Contested?
- Others holding Malphite / Veigar: 1 other: #5.12 · 2+ others: #4.60
- Pace
- Level when its players go out — stage 5: 8.1 · stage 6: 8.6
- Vs its level
- Finishes at level 8.4 on average. Boards at its levels average 4.17 across every comp; this one averages 3.72, 0.45 better. Level is partly how a game went and partly the plan, so this is context, not a grade.Finishes at level 8.3 on average. Boards at its levels average 4.37 across every comp; this one averages 4.91, 0.54 worse. Level is partly how a game went and partly the plan, so this is context, not a grade.
Final board
The whole board at level 8, where most of its games end, drawn from its games at all ranks over the last 14 days. A dashed slot is one its games fill differently; an open one, no unit holds on a quarter of them.









Positions are our rule, by attack range: melee in front, ranged behind, the most-itemed carries in the back corners. Riot's match data has none.
Malphite★★
Gargoyle Stoneplate
Warmog's Armor
Spirit Visage
Rammus★★
Gargoyle Stoneplate
Sunfire Cape
Teemo★★
Void Staff
Blue Buff
Warwick★★
Kobuko★★
Rek'Sai★★
Veigar★★
Jeweled Gauntlet
Blue Buff
Rabadon's Deathcap
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Stage by stage
What to do at each stage, from the numbers below: stages 2 and 3 are our plan, 4 to 6 the level its players were measured at.
Stage 5 Level 8 measured
Its players average 8.1 when they go out in stage 5.
Stage 6 Level 9 measured
Its players average 8.6 when they go out in stage 6.
Its games end around round 5-6 on average, with 10 gold left.
Contested?
How this comp placed by how many of the other seven players in the lobby held Malphite or Veigar, over 182 games of this patch at all ranks. We keep all eight boards of every game, so this is measured, not guessed; part of the gap is the lobby itself, so read it as how it placed, not only why.
| Others holding it | Avg Place | Share of games |
|---|---|---|
| 1 other player | #5.12 | 44% |
| 2 or more | #4.60 | 35% |
Questions
What people search for about this comp, answered from the numbers on this page.
How do you play Blackthorn Veigar with Rammus in TFT Set 18?
Fast 8. Players of this comp who go out in stage 6 are level 8.6 on average.
What items does Malphite need?
On its final board Malphite holds Gargoyle Stoneplate, Warmog's Armor and Spirit Visage.
Is Blackthorn Veigar with Rammus good in patch 18.5?
Not graded yet: 78 games at all ranks in the last 7 days, and a grade needs 400. Its average place over them is #4.91.
Is Blackthorn Veigar with Rammus contested?
Contest costs it little: with one other #5.12 (44% of games), with two or more #4.60 (35%), over 182 games of this patch at all ranks.
Items
The three items this comp’s carry was measured holding most often, the placement of the boards it held them on, and the difference against the comp’s own average. Every board of the family at all ranks over the last 14 days.
| Champion | Item | Avg Place | vs comp | Games |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| #5.03 | +0.11 | 79 | ||
| #5.00 | +0.09 | 42 |
Augments that fit
What each augment grants, set against what this comp measured: the same rule the overlay uses when it reads the three on offer. A measured line is the comp’s own placement at a trait level; a line by rule is a fact about the comp, such as the damage its carry is built for.
MeasuredThe comp’s own placement at a trait’s levels, beside the augments that give the trait.
AP carry
By ruleSuits this carry: Malphite is built for ability power here (113 boards)
1 more
Works against it: Wrong damage type (3)
By ruleWrong damage type: Malphite is built for ability power here (113 boards)
Riot’s match-v1 data does not report which augments a player took, so no augment has a number of its own on this page or anywhere else on the site. The augment reference lists what each one grants.
More about this comp
Traits
Active on the core board, with the next breakpoint the trait offers.
What each tier of this comp’s own traits was worth on its boards. The small number under each average is how many boards sat at that tier.
| Trait | Placement at each tier |
|---|---|
| Blackthorn | 44.8310265.0575 |
| Sprykin | 35.527554.51102 |
By bracket
Diamond, Master, Grandmaster and Challenger against the whole sample. Each board carries the tier of its own player where the sampler held it.
| Bracket | Games | Avg Place | Top 4 % | Win % |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Diamond+ | 7 | #3.71 | 71.4% | 14.3% |
| All ranks | 78 | #4.91 | 46.2% | 2.6% |
Trend
Avg Place on each of the last 7 days. The bars are scaled to the range shown, so the shape is the comparison and the figure under each bar is the day.
Also played
Families sharing at least 4 core units with this one — the same board taken a different way.
| Comp | Tier | Shared units | Avg Place | Games |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sprykin Veigar | — | 5 | #5.17 | 7,498 |
| Sprykin Azir & Rammus with Malphite | — | 5 | #5.10 | 3,620 |
| Blackthorn Malphite & Azir with Rammus | — | 5 | #4.53 | 76 |
| Sprykin Rammus & Tristana | — | 4 | #4.90 | 2,802 |
| Blackthorn Malphite & Morgana | — | 4 | #5.19 | 154 |
| Summoner Azir & Rammus | — | 4 | #4.78 | 120 |
| Sprykin Alune | — | 4 | #4.83 | 80 |