TFT CODEX

Blackthorn Veigar with Rammus

Also called Malphite Veigar Fast 8 · Blackthorn Fast 8

Fast 8ConsistentCarried by Malphite & VeigarA Teamfight Tactics Set 18 comp, measured on patch 18.5 ranked games.

Difficulty Easy None of the difficulty signals we could measure apply (2 of 4 measured)

Updated 21 Oct 2026, 08:18 UTC · ranked games, last 7 days, Diamond+ · Patch 18.5

Too few games to grade in Diamond+: 7 in the last 7 days, and its numbers start at 400. All ranks shows what we measured.

Which version?

Two comps play Blackthorn around Veigar. They share the three below; the units only one of them plays tell you which one you are on.

Every version plays
Rek'SaiVeigarMalphite
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No tier yetBlackthorn Veigar with Rammus
— avg— top 47 gamesFast 8
Carried by Malphite & Veigar
Only this one plays
KobukoTeemoWarwickRammusor Azir

Ranked games, last 7 days, Diamond+. A dashed portrait is a flex slot: many of its games play another unit there.

No tier yet fewer than 400 games this week   Not graded played too rarely to grade

When

  • #5.12 with one other44% of games
  • #4.60 with two or more35% of games

Others on Malphite or Veigar in the lobby, over 182 games of this patch at all ranks.

Level plan

  1. Stage 5 Lv 8.1 measured
  2. Stage 6 Lv 8.6 measured

Carries

Malphite 3★ on 0% of boards

Gargoyle StoneplateWarmog's ArmorSpirit Visage Gargoyle Stoneplate, Warmog's Armor, Spirit Visage

Veigar 3★ on 38% of boards

Jeweled GauntletBlue BuffRabadon's Deathcap Jeweled Gauntlet, Blue Buff, Rabadon's Deathcap

Malphite

Game plan

How it’s played
Fast 8 Players of this comp who go out in stage 6 are level 8.6 on average.
Roll
Level 8 around 4-2: about 22 rolls (44 gold) to 2-star Malphite; about 33 if three copies of each are on other boards. model
Contested?
Others holding Malphite / Veigar: 1 other: #5.12 · 2+ others: #4.60
Pace
Level when its players go out — stage 5: 8.1 · stage 6: 8.6
Vs its level
Finishes at level 8.4 on average. Boards at its levels average 4.17 across every comp; this one averages 3.72, 0.45 better. Level is partly how a game went and partly the plan, so this is context, not a grade.

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Final board

The whole board at level 8, where most of its games end, drawn from its games at all ranks over the last 14 days. A dashed slot is one its games fill differently; an open one, no unit holds on a quarter of them.

The Night Arena: an obsidian TFT board lit in gold
★★
★★
★★
★★
★★
★★
★★
★★

Positions are our rule, by attack range: melee in front, ranged behind, the most-itemed carries in the back corners. Riot's match data has none.

4Malphite★★
  • Gargoyle Stoneplate
  • Warmog's Armor
  • Spirit Visage
carry
3Rammus★★
  • Gargoyle Stoneplate
  • Sunfire Cape
2Teemo★★
  • Void Staff
  • Blue Buff
2Warwick★★
1Kobuko★★
1Rek'Sai★★
1Veigar★★
  • Jeweled Gauntlet
  • Blue Buff
  • Rabadon's Deathcap
carry
3Azirflex

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Stage by stage

What to do at each stage, from the numbers below: stages 2 and 3 are our plan, 4 to 6 the level its players were measured at.

Stage 5 Level 8 measured

Its players average 8.1 when they go out in stage 5.

Stage 6 Level 9 measured

Its players average 8.6 when they go out in stage 6.

Its games end around round 5-6 on average, with 10 gold left.

Contested?

How this comp placed by how many of the other seven players in the lobby held Malphite or Veigar, over 182 games of this patch at all ranks. We keep all eight boards of every game, so this is measured, not guessed; part of the gap is the lobby itself, so read it as how it placed, not only why.

Others holding itAvg PlaceShare of games
1 other player#5.1244%
2 or more#4.6035%

Questions

What people search for about this comp, answered from the numbers on this page.

How do you play Blackthorn Veigar with Rammus in TFT Set 18?

Fast 8. Players of this comp who go out in stage 6 are level 8.6 on average.

What items does Malphite need?

On its final board Malphite holds Gargoyle Stoneplate, Warmog's Armor and Spirit Visage.

Is Blackthorn Veigar with Rammus good in patch 18.5?

Not graded yet: 78 games at all ranks in the last 7 days, and a grade needs 400. Its average place over them is #4.91.

Is Blackthorn Veigar with Rammus contested?

Contest costs it little: with one other #5.12 (44% of games), with two or more #4.60 (35%), over 182 games of this patch at all ranks.

Items

The three items this comp’s carry was measured holding most often, the placement of the boards it held them on, and the difference against the comp’s own average. Every board of the family at all ranks over the last 14 days.

ChampionItemAvg Placevs compGames
MalphiteGargoyle Stoneplate#5.03+0.1179
MalphiteWarmog's Armor#5.00+0.0942

Augments that fit

What each augment grants, set against what this comp measured: the same rule the overlay uses when it reads the three on offer. A measured line is the comp’s own placement at a trait level; a line by rule is a fact about the comp, such as the damage its carry is built for.

MeasuredThe comp’s own placement at a trait’s levels, beside the augments that give the trait.

#4.83

Blackthorn 4: averages 4.83 here, against 5.05 at Blackthorn 6 (177 boards)

#4.51

Sprykin 5: averages 4.51 here, against 5.52 at Sprykin 3 (177 boards)

AP carry

By ruleSuits this carry: Malphite is built for ability power here (113 boards)

Baron's LairCoronationDeadlier CapsHold the LineSoul AwakeningDark RitualDouble TroubleEarly LearningsEmbiggenNO SCOUT NO PIVOTSeraphim's StaffTons of Stats!
1 moreStand United
Works against it: Wrong damage type (3)

By ruleWrong damage type: Malphite is built for ability power here (113 boards)

Deadlier BladesCybernetic ImplantsFocused Fire

Riot’s match-v1 data does not report which augments a player took, so no augment has a number of its own on this page or anywhere else on the site. The augment reference lists what each one grants.

More about this comp

Traits

Active on the core board, with the next breakpoint the trait offers.

Blackthorn4next 6Sprykin4next 5Brawler2next 4Monolith1

What each tier of this comp’s own traits was worth on its boards. The small number under each average is how many boards sat at that tier.

TraitPlacement at each tier
Blackthorn44.8310265.0575
Sprykin35.527554.51102

By bracket

Diamond, Master, Grandmaster and Challenger against the whole sample. Each board carries the tier of its own player where the sampler held it.

BracketGamesAvg PlaceTop 4 %Win %
Diamond+7#3.7171.4%14.3%
All ranks78#4.9146.2%2.6%

Trend

Avg Place on each of the last 7 days. The bars are scaled to the range shown, so the shape is the comparison and the figure under each bar is the day.

Also played

Families sharing at least 4 core units with this one — the same board taken a different way.

CompTierShared unitsAvg PlaceGames
Sprykin Veigar—5#5.177,498
Sprykin Azir & Rammus with Malphite—5#5.103,620
Blackthorn Malphite & Azir with Rammus—5#4.5376
Sprykin Rammus & Tristana—4#4.902,802
Blackthorn Malphite & Morgana—4#5.19154
Summoner Azir & Rammus—4#4.78120
Sprykin Alune—4#4.8380